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Welcome everybody to another podcast in downloads. Uh, I am your official host Douglas screen up and John Always on the far right is lister Josh Rogers. And today we’re talking with Tulsa meal delivery Kevin Doncaster. People were like, who is this masked man, Kevin dog cancer. Uh, and I, uh, I’ll give you a little history, uh, known each other for quite a few years. Uh, Kevin is a former United States marine as well as I am. We both share similar passions. Uh, I got some breaking news for you a after the end of the show. Uh, but I want to get to introduce Kevin and uh, his, his cause, what he’s doing for, for our veterans, uh, which is near and dear to both of us. So, uh, so today we’re interviewing Kevin. Dot. Katz when he’s with a company called a Warhawk Ptsd service dogs. It was formed back. He himself received a dog of a zone without any costs.

Uh, someone felt like blessing him and would accept no form of payment. Shortly after one of his buddies who served with him in Afghanistan, uh, committed suicide. Unfortunately, after praying and asking for a direction, he called the Brooder, uh, of this dog and, and shared a story which comes with a seven years, uh, splits. There were three in Iraq and Afghanistan. So thinking about, um, so what does warlock pts do? What do they deliver? They deliver to people with post traumatic stress disorder. Correct. And there’s a high emphasis, uh, when I’m being, as I’m learning for, especially for veterans, no doubt. Uh, so, and you guys build this, which is crazy. They’re delivered up without any cost. And if you’ve ever had a dog, you have a dog, dogs, are you going to, do you look like a cat person that no, I would think that you were like, I don’t mind cats.

Like, no, you don’t mind that. I, my dad, especially fat, Lazy ones that leave me alone, but I have two dogs that, um, one I like, you know, that they cost money. Oh yeah, yeah. They called us, people call you and say, someone just loved this dog in a ditch. Come get [inaudible] out loud. Choose a time. God forbid they have that ACL surgery or something. Yup. Yeah. So what they’re doing there, they’re relying on God and the, the, the public for, for donation. So with that, uh, ladies and gentlemen, Mr Kevin Doncaster, welcome to the show.

Thank you. Yeah. So I’ll just tie right into that. So here, here’s the deal. I think that, um, there’s a big boy, there’s a gap in what not only the BA is trying to do because they’re constantly inundated. Um, we’ve got several of veterans that need help. Um, and I think this is a great way to do it. So I think that, um, the first thing we’re trying to do is we’re trying to give veterans a purpose. Something to distract them from getting out of their own head and being down or depressed or just focusing on maybe some of the, the tours that they’ve done. Uh, but the other thing too with, with respect to what you’re saying about just trusting in the public, we’re giving the public an opportunity to stand in that gap with this, to fill that void. And I think nothing sends a better message that, um, we support you or we love you then to be able to gift a somebody a dog.

Yeah. There’s a, there’s a huge, and I think the public misunderstands and it’s kind of all misconstrued because of all the publicity and everything else. Uh, nobody understands that there’s, there’s, there’s zero transitions. So we’d go from absolute war to art. Here’s public Macromedia civilian, yet there’s a zero transmission. So we go through bouts of depression, there’s PTSD, there’s sense of changes. We’re always on the move, always, always, always. So, you know, my first few years out, I had like four cars and two or three houses and there’s always something. I had to be moving, had to be doing something because I didn’t know how to, I’d never transitioned, but the VA gave me 10% back then, you know, $200 a month. I’m like, heck yeah. But one of them, I know there was way a lot of trauma that was going on that was undiagnosed. Right. So I think yeah,

that people get it misconstrued because of the movies that we see. We see guys on a ship or we see World War Two movies and they’re taking a couple of weeks to see before they actually go into the battlefield. You know, for me, I think a 36 hours was my record from being in the states to being on my first control. And then you come back in the same fashion and now you’ve got to reintegrate with society. I mean, the biggest struggle that I have is going into the grocery store. Too many selections, people you’re crowded and he just, you just start sweating and breaking down. Um, so yeah, I think, um, that misconceptions because of the way that media and Hollywood, so, you know, uh, make it look so,

I dunno. Easy, easy. Absolutely. No, it’s definitely not. Listen to the navy still talk the other day and it made total sense to me in it and not the list was all podcasts. I bet they were like, what we trained for so many years when, when, when he got towards like a sense of relief because we could actually do what we’re trained to do. So people think that we just come back from battle. We’ve actually been preparing for battle for years before that. Yeah. So that’s, it’s, it’s a, it’s a mindset that we’ve been in for so long and then to come now I have to go to a job and I have to perform as a husband and a wife, whatever. Right. Yeah. It’s crazy. So to talk about the dogs a little, little

bit, um, we don’t, we don’t rescue dogs. Um, I think that that’s one thing I’ve really wanted to come in here and just address. We’re not a dog or animal rescue foundation were people rescue found is awesome. You know. Um, the second thing is we deal with strictly Australian shepherds. We train them as ranch cattle dogs first. You can’t go out American do, I mean, well, let’s get the cosmetics separate is what I was gifted and it really made me passionate about the breed. Yeah. And so when I reached out to the breeder and told them what I wanted to do and how I wanted to accomplish it, he was completely on board. And that really started to learn more about Australian shepherd. So they’re great dogs. And the reason why we like ranch cattle dogs because they know how to block. They don’t have to circle. Does your dog like the ceiling? She rounds, you update your grounds. Me, she also blocks of the people from coming into that zone that I just don’t want, you know, intruded on. So, um, she’s great about making sure that people stay a proper distance from me.

That’s awesome. So let’s talk a little bit, um, you know about you Kevin. What is your inspiration man? Like what wakes you up in the morning? It says mad.

What is it man? I just want to put a stop to better suicides. That’s absolutely why I get up every morning my phone rings off the hook and I feel like I’m almost like a suicide prevention line and I’ll happily do that. So, um, but I think ultimately what I think is just atrocious is I’ve been there too. I’ve battled with bouts of suicidal thoughts, just depression. And I know that I’m not alone in that. So getting up every day trying to reach these guys that need the help or Gals, um, we’ve actually given away $2 to ladies. So, um, yeah, I want these guys know they’re not alone and that there’s help available to them. And people do care. I think today, I guarantee you could walk up to somebody off the street and, and you could tell them, hey, did you know that we got people in Afghanistan? You’ve got people in Iraq, we’ve had people in Syria are we still do? Half of them wouldn’t even know it yet,

nor do they care. That’s right. Yeah. That’s what’s upsetting to me. Uh, so let’s, let’s get into a little bit about the dogs. Um, um, I had a couple of questions. Um, and we can gather those together. We can go back and circle back through them. But what are the hard costs, let’s say from a to Z, from, you know, from the breeding to the delivery of the dog. Was that hard costs?

Yeah, the hard cost is, is gonna vary based on how long we keep the dog. But on Tulsa meal delivery average we’re out the door at about $500 a head. And that is that after training, are you guys doing, that’s after. That’s after all the training’s involved shots, anything that’s needed to get that

dog healthy and he’s awesome. So $500 per dog per, no, that’s, that’s, that’s way cheaper than I thought it was going to be. And really is, it is, it seems achievable versus, you know, you need to see like a German shepherd at a police station, you know, they’re spending 50, 60, $70,000 per doll on the training. So yeah.

Well I would feel that if, if we were to factor in actually the training and how much time we have spent into that cost would go up. These are just costs to keep them fed, give them the shots. Um, we do like to have them spayed or neutered before we go out. I don’t want somebody making a puppy mill off of our program, but, um, that’s about where we’re at.

Cool. So once a dog has delivered to a better, like explained to us step process, is it, uh, do you guys like have like, uh, uh, pick a thing out of a hat? Like, Oh, you won. So never take diggers. Do you guys have like a priority list?

So this is actually the only cost that any recipient will ever occur. Um, we do have an application fee very similar to what you know, any like say our, for example, animal rescue foundation down the street on the water. Um,

for you people that’ll listen in California. That’s okay. You don’t know where it said it’s animal rescue? Yeah,

a rescue. So if you want to adopt a dog, they’re going to charge fee, they’re going to do a background check or whatever and they’re going to make sure that, um, you have saved veterinarian and stuff like that. We do the exact same thing, but our background check is a little more in depth because we want to make sure that our dogs are going to the right people, people with actual PTSD as well. Yeah,

that’s great man. So after the dog is delivered, you guys have picked the person, fill out the application, they’re good to go, you know, what are the next steps? Is it, is it a home delivery or do they come to you guys? And then after that, what is required of the, the veteran or whomever you choose isn’t continued training, is it?

Yeah, we’d like to touch base on an annual basis, but um, just, just to make sure that we address any training issues that might happen. I mean, Lacey right now she’s getting a little slack. Lacey’s my service dog, but sort of brought her into the, I should have, you know, I was thinking about it.

We kind, I had a contest between Josh was here and her hair, he had the best thing on

just lacy wood smoke. Well. So in a perfect scenario, once we, once we identify a good candidate, we would like to have them out to the account we’d like to see based on matching a dog with a recipient is pretty important. We know that some dogs are just going to be geared towards females and other dogs towards males. Yeah. Based on the severity of PTSD as well. Let’s take ’em Marcie’s for example, he was the very first recipient of a dog and he was afforded observer in Afghanistan. Just came back late last year. This guy has night terrors, so we can’t have a timid dog that’s just kind of get terrified of him. They saw something to Comfort Inn. That’s correct. So hope, hope is so perfectly trained. She would jump on the bed, wake him up from his night terrors, and then comfort him until he’s ready.

I just love it. This is a different solution and I’m not knocking the VA, but the, the typical look of the prototype standard, the way that they do things is if you have PTSD, you have night terrors, we’ve got a pill for you. Right? Oh, by the way, you got depression. Now here’s another appeal for you. Oh, I’m having time. Here’s another appeal for you. So that you have this list of pills, but there’s actual, like a holistic natural approach to this. What is getting these veterans at an option that’s not medication? That’s

right. Yeah. So that’s where the next piece comes in, right? So we train these dogs to identify the triggers. So my dog, she will actually, when she knows that I’m stressed out, if I’m having a flashback where I’m talking about the Middle East, she’ll come up under my hand and she’ll take me out of that situation. She’s distracting me and she’s disrupting the trigger, the school. So that’s the, that’s the other piece that they do.

That’s really cool. Really cool. So I have a statistic here, which is alarming to me, but instead of $8, every hundred people, 8% of that population, and this is a civilian while America, but it was, it’s the, I can’t think of what, what society, I got this from a, but I’ll, I’ll, we’ll post it in the notes. Uh, so 8% of the population will have PTSD at some point during their lives. It’s reported that nearly 8 million adults have PTSD during any given year, any given year in the United States, 8 million people. And that was the alarming factor that I got up from the Va. The one step further is the US Department of Veterans Affairs, the estimates that Ptsd uplinks almost 31% of the veterans. So we go from an 8% jump to 31% just for military. It’s alarming man.

Yeah, yeah, exactly. I mean, 22 suicides a day says at all and that’s, I really feel that that is, um, not an accurate depiction. This is just ordered. That’s just what we know. So Warhawk PTSD service dogs is just trying to put a dent in that and hopefully maybe one day we’ll be big enough to where we can eradicate that. That’s awesome man. That’s definitely really cool. It’s like the siren. They’ve got any questions for him before [inaudible]? Sounds good. Yeah, I mean, it goes, it goes along with, you know, uh, we try to get people to eat healthy and helps balance them out. You know, I can’t say the next thing, but that’s huge, right? So what you guys do, I don’t think people realize that if, if you can, if you can get right in your nutrition, the need for the medications falls off. Right? So exercise and nutrition will better than medication. Almost always. Almost always. There’s a few exceptions, but if nothing, I mean in all of the, um, um, things in psychology, uh, recommendations when you go to a psychiatrist or psychiatry or a, yeah, either one. Exercise and nutrition is like number one and two on the, on the list and then the medication. So, um, but there’s also some gaps and this is a cool gap to fill for sure. Like, you know, yeah.

Yeah. I have a quote here, man, one of the, uh, one of the, I read a ton of books and one of my favorite authors is Colin Powell. You guys. Yup. Okay. Just make sure everyone has a color Palette. So one of my favorite things he says is, good ain’t, it ain’t as bad as you think it will look better in the morning. Like if we can just get through that serious time, having a one of our episodes, if we just keep it kind of, I just tell myself, I’ve taught myself to peel back a little bit, it’ll get better the next day, and it typically is, so does not know. You don’t have to grind it through. There’s resources available. Um, you even here at macramed, you can reach out to me or one of my staff and we would gladly talk to you through anything. Um, and with that I want to say thank you for being here, Kevin.

Uh, so part of what we do is our promotional item is $2 and 22 cents. So any customer wanting to try macro massage, you can try your first two meals out for $2 and 22 cents a. From this day forward, uh, we’re going to donate a dollar of every single one of those first two meals for $2 and 22 cents to Warhawk Ptsd. Now sounds like decent bill, but, so I’m going to set a goal board, uh, uh, $10,000 donated to you guys by the end of the year. That’s our goal here at macro mills. So we need your help. So it does, yes, it helps macro mills, but look, when you’re, when you actually buy nutritionists, food, nutritional food, it’s something good for you, healthy for you. You’re actually going to be donating to helping a veteran and the Warhawk PTSD. So I really appreciate it. Thank you. Yeah, so we will, uh, I’ll try to do like a monthly post or something with you, like what we did for the month and we’ll hand you a check and that kind of thing.

Maybe meet some of the dogs and some of the people, get them on the show, that kind of thing. Um, Kevin, what is one accident and you want our listening audience to do this? Is it, do they want to go out? I know you’ve got like seven books out because they’re not a website that they could go to. Can they call you? Is, it’s a social media. What’s one, actually I’m you or multiple action has, if you have on that you, and to have our listening audience go out, where can they donate? Um, and who can they talk to? What website I go ahead.

Yeah. So for sure I’d like you guys to just put, put our a social media site up there. It’s war on PTSD service dogs were on Facebook and that’s generally how we promote things for now. We would like to expand that and uh, I dunno, maybe compete with you guys a little bit and see who can gain the most social game. I know you can get two marines, that’s competitive basis. You know, I get this question a lot and, and um, I’m going to give a couple of options to the audience here. So number one is you see a veteran walk up to them and don’t just thank them for their service, give them a hug. You have no idea how a handshake and a smile can just change the trajectory of somebody’s Day. That’s one of their veteran or not, but specifically for a veteran.

So that doesn’t cost you anything. And I think that’s something we should all do because I think that we’re missing out. The understanding of veterans are the reason why we get to enjoy the everyday life they have. So, um, please go out of your way to do that. Now, second thing is just look us up on Facebook. Um, we always have, we, we are very, um, action oriented or goal oriented in how we do the specific donations. Right now we’re breathing. We know we have a pregnant dog and so we understand that if we have a litter of say 16 pups at 500 bucks a head, that’s going to be about eight, 8,000 bucks. So I think it’s awesome that, um, that you guys are going to target 10 grand because that’s going mean almost 20 dogs, $20. You’re going to impact lives. And so that’s how you guys can do it. And you know, I’ve got almost 5,000 friends on Facebook, so,

but you just gave, but one that’s gone now. So let’s, let’s create the, the urgency is, let me, let me tell a little shirt. They’ll get up and I’m going to put you kind of on the spot. No. What are your immediate needs right now? Are you guys, you don’t have the dispill everything, but is it something that like you guys are underfunded. Do we not have enough dogs? Do we not have enough resources in the current needs so we can create there to see for our listening? Where can they go to? Or what are you an underfunded company right now?

Absolutely. Yeah. So to give you an idea, I spent over $7,000 of my own money to keep this thing alive and I’ll continue to do that. Um, you know, just looking at my tax returns last year, that’s what I shoveled out. But, um, you know, since that time the community has really stepped up. I mean, we’ve raised a lot of money and now we’ve been able to cover the candle expansion so that, uh, we actually received several dogs and via donation Nice Australian shepherds to, so that’s been awesome. So that filled the gap when we were in the process of breeding. So now we know we have about 40 to 45 days before those pups arrive between now and then, uh, we have got to raise that money so that we can care for them, give them the shots and go through.

So you heard it here guys. Yeah. They need your donation. So where can they go to go donate to our, uh, Kevin on our wore off the Facebook page or the warlock. Facebook pays everybody to go look at it. But right now more hooked. VTC were backseat like it all our magic of cinematography there. Um, all our listening audience out there, I’m going to challenge every single one of you, uh, to go out and donate. Yeah. Good. Yeah. I mean, again, we have thousands of fans. You have thousand fans. If we just get the dollar person, older person, uh, or maybe what you can do 10 you, you can skip one QT stop or for West coasters, the seven eleven’s stopped going out there and one time a week and you can donate to a good cause. Yeah. Well Kevin, I appreciate it. I love you Tulsa meal delivery brother love. Um, anybody wants to find out any more information. Go to our website is www.macromealsonline.com where you can find out why we’re Tulsa’s number one meal delivery service, and we are the home of the first two meals for $2 22 cents and we like to end every single show with the piece. Yeah.